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<blockquote data-quote="IanSR" data-source="post: 80460" data-attributes="member: 10446"><p>Don't bother asking the National Trust, they think they own the airspace above their properties right up until the stratosphere, I'm not sure how they enforce this to the likes of British Airways and other airlines who fly over their properties all the time, but I guess they do somehow.</p><p></p><p>Seriously speaking, they have taken the by-law about aircraft not using NT land to take off or land and applied it to models, the Government however, are at pains to distance models from general aviation because otherwise it opens a huge can of worms as you know yourself being a PPL holder) so the NT are just being arseholes (I can't blame them though, if they continued to allow model flying on their sites I'm sure some idiot would crash an Inspire into the side of a house or something, but sadly they've applied this policy to all their land regardless).</p><p></p><p>This policy, it's not law, is about as enforceable as a wet paper bag is strong, and even if they were somehow able to issue you with a fine for breaching the by-law, it's a £12 fine and £2 for every subsequent breach (or something silly like that according to the sign at my local flying spot).</p><p></p><p>My advise would be do what you want, find a quiet spot to fly, well away from people and houses up there and beg forgiveness if you get a ranger shouting at you, I know of people who wild camp in the Lake District and that has been illegal for years yet they never get done, there's just far too much land there for them to adequately patrol.</p><p></p><p>...and even if you do get shouted at, tell them you took off from public property down the road and you walked in and the drone flew in so you didn't break any bye law by doing this, it's especially useful if there's another commercial aircraft flying over at the same time cos you can point and say just like he has, chances are the ranger will just tug and roll his eyes and tell you to land a sap and leave, they know there are so many loopholes in their bylaws a decent lawyer would drive a truck through them so it's not worth doing anything other than asking you to leave or land.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IanSR, post: 80460, member: 10446"] Don't bother asking the National Trust, they think they own the airspace above their properties right up until the stratosphere, I'm not sure how they enforce this to the likes of British Airways and other airlines who fly over their properties all the time, but I guess they do somehow. Seriously speaking, they have taken the by-law about aircraft not using NT land to take off or land and applied it to models, the Government however, are at pains to distance models from general aviation because otherwise it opens a huge can of worms as you know yourself being a PPL holder) so the NT are just being arseholes (I can't blame them though, if they continued to allow model flying on their sites I'm sure some idiot would crash an Inspire into the side of a house or something, but sadly they've applied this policy to all their land regardless). This policy, it's not law, is about as enforceable as a wet paper bag is strong, and even if they were somehow able to issue you with a fine for breaching the by-law, it's a £12 fine and £2 for every subsequent breach (or something silly like that according to the sign at my local flying spot). My advise would be do what you want, find a quiet spot to fly, well away from people and houses up there and beg forgiveness if you get a ranger shouting at you, I know of people who wild camp in the Lake District and that has been illegal for years yet they never get done, there's just far too much land there for them to adequately patrol. ...and even if you do get shouted at, tell them you took off from public property down the road and you walked in and the drone flew in so you didn't break any bye law by doing this, it's especially useful if there's another commercial aircraft flying over at the same time cos you can point and say just like he has, chances are the ranger will just tug and roll his eyes and tell you to land a sap and leave, they know there are so many loopholes in their bylaws a decent lawyer would drive a truck through them so it's not worth doing anything other than asking you to leave or land. [/QUOTE]
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